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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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06-30-2006, 07:08 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: arkansas
Posts: 555
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Percentage of FL resident AP holders
Is there any way to find out what percentage of WDW guests are Florida residents with an AP? My husband and I were talking and the question came up.
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06-30-2006, 07:22 PM
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Living Seas wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 31,940
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Re: Percentage of FL resident AP holders
Not that I know of... it's not on the Disney AP holder website. Disney probably could tell you though since the addresses of all AP holders are in teh computer.
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06-30-2006, 10:58 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 10,481
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Re: Percentage of FL resident AP holders
Not as many as you think. My sister lives in Kissimmee, FL and has a hard time finding someone to go to the parks with her. She is the only teacher in her school that has an AP. She knows a handful of people from her church that work at WDW but not any that are AP holders. AP are pretty expensive and most people in the area don't get "drawn" to the parks like we out-of-staters.
JMHO
Also there are two types of AP...there is the regular AP (where FL residents get a discount although it includes free parking( and a seasonal pass (has black out days does not include parking and is only available to FL Residents)
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07-02-2006, 06:45 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ann Arbor, MI USA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 14,427
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Re: Percentage of FL resident AP holders
This is one of those numbers that Disney just doesn't want to share - it might give too much useful info to the competition.
I'd observe that, while the number of AP holders in the Orlando area may be a relatively small percentage of the population, that can still be a pretty big number. I also know of lots of happy Florida residents with APs that live elsewhere in the state. When you look at the kind of special activities and benefits Disney provides for AP holders, it would seem the vast majority of AP holders do live within easy driving distance of WDW. If they were all farther afield, I suspect AP benefits might be a bit different. Still, there are benefits that appeal to varying constituencies. The pin events, Passholder-exclusive pins, and ride opening previews would seem to be of greatest interest to the local/regional crowd. The room discounts are of little interest to the locals, but are certainly appealing to those who live elsewhere in the state and at even greater distances.
One statistic I do have a handle on is that roughly 2/3 of WDW visitors come from outside of Central Florida. That compares with Disneyland, where the percentages are reversed - roughly 2/3 come from the local area. Now, when you consider how many more people live within a 2-hour drive of DL and compare it to the number that live that distance from WDW, it's not that big a surprise. However, over the past couple of years, the Disneyland rumor mill has been actively discussing whether there are too many Disneyland AP holders from the local market, and how that somehow hurts the parks (I haven't quite agreed with the reasoning behind that conclusion, but the notion is certainly out there).
Considering how much larger the So. Cal population is, it's actually surprising that as many as 1/3 of visitors are from out-of-town. But then, Disneyland has a whole lot more competition in the entertainment/recreation business, too.
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07-02-2006, 06:54 PM
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Living Seas wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 31,940
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Re: Percentage of FL resident AP holders
Thanks for all the insights Dave. As a non-Orlando Floridian Passholder - I completely agree w/your assessment about Florida passholders.
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07-03-2006, 04:51 PM
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Dopey's biggest fan!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: China Spring, TX
Concierge Level: 9
Posts: 26,975
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Re: Percentage of FL resident AP holders
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Thanks for all the insights Dave. As a non-Orlando Floridian Passholder - I completely agree w/your assessment about Florida passholders.
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Ditto!
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