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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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05-12-2006, 03:44 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Nova Scotia Canada
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So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
Just thinking, they're going to see things they want (there are gift shops everywhere?), we're going to want to indulge them, there will be junk food galore, we're on vacation...but I don't want it to turn into a huge whinefest either, if they start getting used to getting, if you know what I mean. Plus our kids are young, and I know if we do overindulge them, it could get ugly when they get overwhelmed. Any been there done that parents have tips to offer or philosophy to contribute? I would love to say they'll be especially happy and grateful for all the treats, but...uh...gratitude and good manners come and go in stressful situations (and there's good stress too, in addition to the change in schedule and routine).
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05-12-2006, 03:51 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
Concierge Level: 3
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
I would not indulge their every whim. The cost of some things is so high, and if your kids are anything like mine, the minute they get something new, the item they got at the last store is already forgotten about. When I go this August with my family, I will probably allow my DD to get something special from each park except MGM (she's 6 and not into a lot of the things at MGM), but that's it. 3 Disney items should be more than enough. It's not like she has no toys here at home for when we get home.
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05-12-2006, 04:22 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan & Florida
Posts: 1,601
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
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05-12-2006, 09:57 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: SE Ohio
Posts: 3,246
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
I spoiled my dd rotten the first time we went. Since then, she has learned that there are certain things that are off limits or limited. She did really good on our last trip. I told her every time we left the hotel that she could get one thing and it had to cost less than $XX. It worked well.
I totally understand about the whining though. You don't want your kids to throw a fit on vacation or cry for 2 hours because they couldn't get something (my dd did this in December - it was exhausting), but you have to set limits, especially when the girls see those princess dresses!!! (By the way, my dd ended up getting the Ariel dress, but only after she agreed to be good on our Wishes cruise - so I totally blew that one!!!)
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05-12-2006, 10:10 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: knoxville t.n. GO BIG ORANGE!
Posts: 564
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
My DH and I let our DS earn extra money leading up to our trip and all of our extra change goes into a Disney jar. Before our trip we see how much he has saved and divide by the # of days we are staying. DS knows he can spend by the day or all at once. However I do surprise him with extra treats, for good behavior but no more than one treat/gift a day!
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05-13-2006, 07:26 AM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 1,154
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
We also let our son earn Disney Dollars leading up to the trip. Then, we set aside a time to shop at World of Disney, usually toward the end of our trip. That way he has sufficient time to make a "wish list" from all of the things he sees in the hotel and park gift shops. World of Disney usually has all of these things in one place, plus we get a 10% discount there with our DVC membership.
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05-13-2006, 12:14 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
Posts: 27,691
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
I don't usually, because I have the two of them. Something tells me I'm going to this trip b/c it's going to be just me and Jalen [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/whistling2.gif[/img]
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05-13-2006, 07:47 PM
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Living Seas wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 31,940
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
I do't give my niece whatever she wants. She has her money and she is allowed to spend it - but we talk about waht she really wants and tend to save the $$ until her last day to buy the things that are really needed. That helps cut down on the whiney "I wants"
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05-13-2006, 03:10 PM
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Go Red Sox!! :D
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Rhode Island - Red Sox Nation
Concierge Level: 6
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
A few trips ago I started giving DS $10 Disney Dollars each day before we left the resort. (If we had more than one child, I think $10 would probably be a little steep) It has worked out really well - he's become a much better shopper & will save until he knows 'the' items he really wishes to have.
My very first trip to WDW also coincided with a move less than a month after we returned home. So, my parents had us 'clean out' the things we no longer wanted and then had a huge yard sale. All the money we made on our stuff became our spending money for the trip. It sure was a great incentive to get rid of things!
Hope this helps!
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05-13-2006, 04:20 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,498
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
If your child is old enough to understand how much a dollar will buy, then I say let them have a set amount to spend each day or at the end of the vacation.
Now, here's the perk for the kid - they get to buy ANYTHING they want with the money. That's right, if you let them choose what they want, no matter how trivial, you will have a happy kid. And they will learn how much to spend or not spend, depending on how badly they want a certain toy or souveneir.
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05-13-2006, 10:12 PM
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PassPorter and WDW Addict
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Texas
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 12,489
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
I give DD Disney dollars throughout the year before we go. I gave her some in her Valentine's card, some for making honor roll, at Easter, etc. Plus any money she gets throughout the year she can take a portion of that as well. She knows when it runs out then she is out!
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05-14-2006, 08:45 AM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 881
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
We usually take some time one day to go to Characters Wearhouse (the Disney Outlet) and buy some fun stuff there. We don't buy tons in the parks, but a few little things (for example, I always buy a new Disney ornament for each yr we go)
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05-16-2006, 12:36 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 5,325
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
My DS saves money for the things he wants at Disney. He saves birthday money, Christmas money, money for chores around the house, etc. We bought him a Mickey wallet and he keeps his money in there. For our trip in a couple of weeks, he has a little over $200 saved.
When he wants something at Disney, we tell him he has to use his money so he is very pickey about what he buys. It eliminates him wanting every thing he sees. Of course, we do break down and buy him a few things while we are there but they are of our own choosing.
As far as food, yes he indulges. It is vacation so we allow him snacks and treats within reason.
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05-16-2006, 07:10 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Indiana
Posts: 909
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
Our DD is really good about saving money and buying her own stuff. Last year she saved up $500.00 to take to Disney World. We let her buy us stuff...hehehehe
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05-17-2006, 07:16 PM
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Community Rank: Traveler
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 439
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Re: So, um, do you totally spoil the kids while you\'re there or what?
I went a lot of time as a kid and my parents never spoiled me. I had the permission to eat a Mickey Bar every day and I could buy some little things (like 5 $ a day), but that's it. I had to wait until I was 21 to buy that Figment bean that I wanted since I was 9! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I think it's a good thing that they acted that way because I knew that if I'd ask for something, the day was over!
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